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Forum postsTotal 8 posts found, here are 3 latest posts:
Re: Defects of the IAAF table point in 1985
Posted: Nov 15, 2012
Hello again, Vermouth!

"“However, although you disagree with having different tables, you seemingly prove the contrary in point 3 in you statement”
So?
Is there anything wrong with that?"



By me is wrong, that you actually agree, while said you do not agree



"Decathlon should be balance event and not only speed related"


Fully agree, was it not clear of my statements? Here is one little complication anyway (as it is clear from Günther's post too), it seems there could be different points of view, which tables ARE or WILL BE actually balanced. Who is able to say which results are EQUALLY GOOD for MULTI-EVENTERS? I think one way, Günther in other..... And let's not forget, after some 10 or 20 years the situation could be somehow different from today .


" “But changing tables on regular basis (every year) would make our life too complicated, don't you think”

Is someone mentioned changing tables every year at any above opinions, NOT.

So I don’t know where you got that from, unless you read totally different Forum"


Well, I simply considered these "past 20 years" will be different every next year (last will drop out, current will be added) and for my little brain it was obviously too hard to understand WHY you mentioned this exact number.


Best wishes
Enn
Re: Defects of the IAAF table point in 1985
Posted: Nov 12, 2012
Hello, Vermouth!

However, although you disagree with having different tables, you seemingly prove the contrary in point 3 in you statement.
Unless you think multi-eventers getting lower points in throws is what is normal.

And this:
"And maybe developing tables based on past performances would be best idea. What I meant, we have got an access to best 100/200 performances from every year for the past 20 years and setting up average based on those performances would be quite faire, tables then would be designed around decathletes past performances not specialists"
is seemingly pro different tables too

But changing tables on regular basis (every year) would make our life too complicated, don't you think ?

Enn
Re: Defects of the IAAF table point in 1985
Posted: Nov 09, 2012
So, if 13,00 in hurdles =22,40 in SP, then 13,05 could be approximately 22,00?
Thus 0,4 sec hurdles = a bit more than 2 meters in SP at this level....
13,85 -> 18,00; 14,25 -> 16.00; 14,65 -> 14,00; 15,05 -> 12,00
It's linear and not precise, but the principle remains.... so I have doubts.
It could have some sense in comparing hurdlers with shot-putters (even then the step is too much), but not in decathlon

As I tried to explain my point of view, comparing multi-eventers with "specialists" is not a good idea. So we must have different table sets.

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Ashton Eaton 2014/2015
enn wrote on May 28, 2015
A "little" addition to 400mH list:
Brasilian Mahau Camargo Suguimati (7055 in decathlon in 2012) has time 48.67 from 2009.